How to Nurture Your Audience with Valuable Content

Hi, I'm so so happy to be here. Thank you so much. Now I have to say your last name is what all entrepreneurs want. Is it actually like by birth or by marriage or something? It was by
marriage? I mean, I like it. People think it's for branding all the time. I'm like, but I would have branded it with one F and one t not two F's and two T's. I know, though. Yeah, it was a an ex marriage.
Well, it really worked out. You could have it. Yeah, you kept the best part of that marriage. Right? And I didn't even take my husband's name. I Hirshhorn is my birth name. And that's just what it is.
Yep. Yeah. So it's, it's yeah, it's great for branding. But it is, it's so important to like, Always know your numbers, always know the ROI on everything that you're doing and spending time. And I know, you spend a lot of time talking about social media, and online marketing and strategy. And just like, I love that world, before we jump in and start talking about kind of like what's been going on in that whole space? Because I don't know about you, when I started my businesses. None of this existed did did this exist for you? When you started my
first business, my first business that I started, it was Facebook and Twitter, those were the things,
okay. It's just there's so many things. And it seems like every month, or every quarter, at least, there's something either a new platform or something, a new feature. And then people are like, Ah, it's just another thing. So we're gonna hone in on how we can better like spend time but I would love to know more about your journey. Have you gotten to where you are today share a little bit of context so that our viewers, anybody listening or watching knows, like, you just didn't roll out of bed. And this happened. Like there's a journey to get there. So
I'm sorry, I roll out of bed like this. No, I wish this is I wish I could look better than I do. After all the makeup I've applied. But anyway. So I did not get here in a linear fashion. It is not like I woke up and I said, I want to be a marketing strategist. When I grow up. First of all, I don't think well, social media didn't exist. I mean, heck, the internet didn't exist, was born. So forget that. Forget them. So I went to college, and I studied history. And then I was like, Oh, I can do nothing with that. What do I do now? Well, it just so happened that I hitched my wagon to a guy who lived in LA now I was in Canada. So I moved to LA and got a job in entertainment PR. And it was really cool. I was on a reality show. This was like one of the first reality shows like ever. It was a famous redhead, a famous redhead comedian. She had a reality show on Bravo. This was like before the housewives franchise like this ages me a little bit. Wow. And after a while, I was like, you know, I don't think I want to do PR this isn't what I wanted. I'm going to be a journalist. So got a master's in journalism and I worked at that I moved to Pennsylvania worked on the Radio. It was awesome. I was doing news and reporting and anchoring, and then I got pregnant and they laid me off. Oh, my gosh, you were not expecting that right? Yeah, no, I wasn't either. I was not expecting that either. So then I was like, oh my god, this is my life. I am officially a nothing, which, you know, that's like a whole other mindset issue. But I then, you know, I was called by the local newspaper called me up, like, within days, and they said, We'd love for you to freelance for us. And I was like, okay, you know, I'm five months pregnant. They're like, we don't care. We don't care, which was really awesome. But I was moving to to Arizona, within a year, based on my husband's job, so when we got to Arizona, I was like, do I want to be a journalist and pay more money to a babysitter then that I will be earning? Or do I want to do something else? He was like, you know, I have this desire this, this calling that I have to make breastfeeding clothing. Did you? I did, oh, my gosh, wow. So I have no training in it. Like Google was my best friend. And I figured out how to do it. And by the end, I was selling my clothes on Nordstrom COMM And on Amazon and in boutiques across the country. And I'll tell you, inventory, I don't miss that. But so what happened was, the reason I got out of it, it was twofold. So number one, moms who are like millennial age and younger, they were like, hey, we'd rather just go to I don't know, Zara, buy something and then rip it and then throw it in the garbage to pay a ton of money for this. And also, I had hired somebody to help me with my social media. And she turned out to be a nightmare. She was verbally abusive, emotionally abusive. And I paid her $25,000 over the course of a year, I got 5000 Instagram followers that were not going to buy from me. And I started to feel like I was an inch tall. So when I finally put a really raggedy bow on that business, I thought, all right, well, what can I do now?
I have this experience that is all part of me. It's all in my brain. What can I do? And I thought, Well, why don't I help other women with their business? Why don't I be that supportive cheerleading guide to help them with their marketing. So nobody ever feels as crappy as I do right now. And so that was kind of the my mission that I went to. I know, you said brief, but this is no, this is great. This is great. I can't be brief because this all happened. And so now I do what I do, because I learned everything from others. I'm always learning more. And I just love helping women and seeing for me, it's all about the mission. Right? Like, if somebody says, Hey, I'd like to work with you. Actually, this happened like a half hour ago, somebody said, you know, I'd like to work with you. I haven't written a book. And I know you've helped women who have written books, and they have a mission, whatever. But I read a blog. And I said, Well, what's your mission? And when she told me what her mission is, I go, Yeah, let's get on a call. That's awesome. If you have a mission, that's, that's just like you, Angela, if you have a mission, that is you are aiming to make this world a better place, then I want to help. That's awesome, in my small way,
that it's so important. It's like and the older I get, I like say, the more experience we gain. You know, it's like, I don't want to work on projects that we're not going to be passionate about. Like, it's just it takes the fun out of it. And but isn't it funny how when we think like bad things happen to us or like negative experiences, how a lot of entrepreneurs like build businesses off of a feeling that they never want anyone else to go through ever again. I mean, that's why I'm doing what I'm doing now. Yeah, I mean, it's very similar. It's like, we worked with so many different consultants and so many different people and so many different causes. And then they promise all this stuff. And then, you know, my heart I want to believe like, they're not bad people, they just don't know what they don't know. Two of them are outright stealing. And so, you know, in my head, it's like, dunno, you think I'm a dumb blonde, but like, I'm really not on certain things. But it's just sad that people take advantage of other people, and then treat them like that, and make them feel lesser than what they are. And so that's a great story. You said something really important, though, that I would like to go back to because there's a lot of people, a lot of consumers that will contact us and say, I need PR, or I need this. And I'm like, oh, no, that's PR, that's not marketing. And that's definitely not digital marketing. And it's not content creation, digital marketing, which is what we do. So you need PR, and they're like, but isn't that what you do? Can you just briefly explain like the difference between PR and like, digital marketing? Because it's very different.
Oh, it's right. And and what's interesting is, I believe that PR actually falls under the marketing umbrella. But it's not marketing. Does not digital marketing. PR is getting you in the news. I mean, that's the shortest way I can say it. It's getting you in the news. It might I feel like guesting on podcasts kind of straddles both marketing and PR. I mean, I help people do it, but other PR people help people do it. But podcasting in general, would technically fall under the news. So if it's the news, if it's CNN, ABC, NBC, you know, Arianna Huffington, whatever she's on now Huff Post or the Thrive global or whatever, that's PR. So that is somebody or yourself, pitching you to be written about? And, you know, there's the waters are slightly muddied. Because when people say, you know, I write for Forbes, yes, but you might pay for that. Mm hmm. So, I think that in general, PR is not paid for. But it can be, but again, it's, but that's what PR is, it's so you can say, as seen in or as featured on? How's that?
That's perfect. And I love that you brought up that you can pay for things, which
people don't know that. But I like to be transparent. No, I like to be transparent. So just because your competition is featured in something doesn't mean they didn't pay to be there. In fact, here's an interesting thing I learned. People actually have to pay to get their their walk up Hollywood Walk of Fame, their star. That's not free. Right? Hollywood didn't call someone up and go, Hey, we want to do you a favor?
No. And you mentioned books, and working with a lot of authors. And I didn't know until I started self publishing some things that you could buy your own book, lots of them to be on the bestseller list. Like there's just all these things that you don't know what you don't know. But then it's almost like telling a little kid Santa Claus doesn't exist in some of these things.
Wait, don't say that. No, I'm just kidding. I'm Jewish. It's fine.
Just but you know, are telling like a family like you can't go on vacation because of the pandemic and everything shut down. And you can't take your kids to Disney. You know, it's just it sucks. And so it's like, when you learn these some, it's like the magician behind the curtain thing where sometimes I'm like, do I really want to know that because it would have been better if I didn't know that. You know, that sucks. But it also helps you realize in life that like some of the things you think and some of the things you were told and some of the things you were taught, chitchat changes you know, and and things. It's almost anything and everything in a news and PR publication money can buy a lot of those things. But typically, in PR like you need some type of like a brand guide or a word guide or something that is going to market you and the way that you want to be marketed. So a lot of the marketing details that needs to be done will support The PR so that they don't say the wrong things about you. So there's like layers, like let's do ABCD before we get to XYZ, so I mean, that's just exactly kind of how I
absolutely. And A is being clear with your messaging. Yes, knowing who you're talking to Who's your ideal client, who's your target market, and knowing what to say that's going to resonate with them. And that falls under Content Marketing, that's content marketing 101, as opposed to PR, which is, you already need to have an established brand for, you know, Anderson Cooper to say, hey, I want to have you on my show. If that were what he actually covered, which you probably wouldn't, but you know what I'm saying?
Yeah. Are there is there any, like exercises or things that you would tell a client? How to get clear on their message? Like, is there a secret framework or like the top three things that you need to do that anybody that's like listening, or watching? Or like, oh, shit, I need to make sure I'm clear. So like, what is the number one thing that they should be doing to make sure that not You're not that you're clear to yourself and your team? By the way? It's like what other people think about you?
Well, yes, exactly. So I would say the first thing is ask somebody who is not you, not your family member, not your sister, not your, you know babysitter for your kids, you want to ask somebody who is your target audience. And that is what we in marketing, like to call market research, which, you know, you were talking about numbers and ROI and all this stuff. And that kind of thing makes me itchy. I gotta say, I'm like, way more creative. And like, I have to force myself to do the number II thing with the spreadsheets in the hour. But I do it because you have to. And so that said, market research, it doesn't mean that you have to crunch numbers and have a focus group. It simply means you can survey your Instagram followers. Hey, tell me what you think about X, Y, and Z, pick A, B or C, you know, so it's, it's really checking out to see what people are responding to. So here's the thing about marketing, and you know, this, it says you always have to tweak things. It's not like you're gonna find like the magic bullet, and then like, Oh, this is what I do every single time and every single time I post it 25,000 People are going to give me money. It's, it's not like that, and marketing as a whole, especially content marketing. I mean, it's hard to really give you ROI. Because everything that you do with your marketing, like everything your marketing touches is how you make money. So if nobody knows about you, there, what's that that line is like the best known product is going to win. It's not the best for them. And the example often given is the iPhone. The iPhone is not as good as other phones that that are available, but their marketing is top notch. They know who their audiences and they have us, hook line and sinker. I am one of those people, but I have never lined up for an iPhone. I will say that I've never done that.
I pre order stuff, but I don't stand in line. I'm like an apple geek. I'm the girl who'd rather have every Apple thing than like, clothes or shoes or a purse.
I know it's weird. It's really weird. Well, it's not weird, but that's good marketing.
It is. It's all about like, integrating it. Like Apple's whole thing. People think they are an a technology company or a product company. They're really an experience company that embeds every single day. What do you need either on your wrist? Or in your hand when you go to the bathroom or whatever? What do you need to have a better experience? Yes, every single day. Like it's it's insane. So talking about content and and I'm sure if you're listening or watching unless you've lived under under just like a complete bubble like you've heard the terms organic paid, nurturing, but like do you really know what it means? So you know, you really talk about the having a plan for content but but specifically like the nurturing and you know, there's different buying stages and there's different customer journeys, but what what have some case studies or experiences been, where nurturing content has like really worked that for your clients.
Everything that I advocate for is nurturing. So I don't know that I can give you a specific case study. But I can tell you that you can get all the leads you want in the whole wide world. And if you don't nurture those leads, by providing them with value on the regular, you wasted your money. So the case study is I don't let anybody I work with not have continuous content running, and they get clients and they run, they grow their businesses, and they grow their following. That's just what happens. It's, it's, it's a slow process. This is a marathon, not a sprint. But it is a tried and true process.
So we know we need it. Can you share like the top reasons like you and I know why we need it. But people who are listening who are not in marketing at all, like, why do we need NERT? Why do we need to nurture? Why do we need content to nurture? And if you can give an example of like, actual content that would be like a nurturing piece, I think could be helpful. Sure, absolutely.
Okay. So give me an example of a job, a business, an entrepreneur, somebody that is listening now, what do you think they might do? What do you think? What kind of business do you think they might have?
So I know a lot of people that listen and watch, they are in the hospitality industry. And so they do a lot of events, they design things. They're preparing food, alcohol, mixology, anything that has to do with providing a service, like a really great experience and service for for people for consumers.
Okay, could we say like an event planner, for example. Okay, so let's talk about this mythical event planner. Okay. So why does this event planner need to nurture her audience? First of all, she's we talked about leads, right? Bringing in all these leads, but our Leads Leads are new people coming into your funnel, which is another word that gets overused. So I'll just say your community, they're hopping on, you're hopping on the conveyor belt of your customer journey at the beginning. So now, because I know, you know, just an aside, we talked about, you know, all the jargon. So one time I was talking to my husband, and I said something about lead gen. And he said, Who's that? I was like, Oh, right. You're not in marketing, you have no idea what I'm talking about. So, exactly. So this, this mythical event planner, has met a bunch of people at a networking event, let's say he or she has this really great lead magnet, five steps to planning your first event. Without any drama. Let's say that's her lead magnet. So the person I love lead magnets, they're my favorite. So the person, this ideal client says, Oh, I watched that lead magnet, and they download it. And then they never hear from her again. The end silence crickets. That's not good, right? Alternatively, they download or they don't get to download the lead magnet, they put in their information for the lead magnet, and then they get an email that delivers the lead magnet, they have to open their email, and they're like, Oh, I just got my first email from mythical event planner. And then the next day, they get another email from her and this one talks about who she is why she does, what she does, what her mission is. And at the bottom, it says, you know, I hope that this this five tips to planning your first event is helping you but I'm going to give you something even less that's really going to add on to that tomorrow. So watch your inbox. And then the next day she sends them, I don't know paper cutouts for for like centerpieces for your first event. And they're like, oh my god, this is another cool thing that she just gave me. And then in her another email she offers to get on a call with them. Or in another email she offers them to join her program, then they're used to being part of her community they like what she's providing. So it's really about creating that engagement with people again, another buzzword. Wish we had more synonyms in the English language than we do, right. But we don't, there's only one word for love. Thankfully, I don't have to use it very often in work. But creating that back and forth, establishing a rapport getting somebody to know you, to like you, to trust you to see that you know what you're talking about. You're a thought leader, you're an expert, you're an authority in your space, those are really good synonyms. And when they're looking for the person who does what it is that you do, you are the person they're going to hire.
That's the beauty of nurturing it, they may not need you right this second. But like you said, eventually, it's like, keeping you top of mind. And, you know, the other thing, and I also too, used to have this mindset where I thought it was annoying, or I'm like, I don't want to bother people, like, why do they care about me? Like, why do they care about my story? Why do they care about what I do? And then I had a coach, tell me, you got to stop thinking that because first off, you solve a problem. So those of you watching or listening, and you're listening to what we're saying, you solve a problem, people need your help. And they want to look good, like the story brand. God says they want to be hero, and you can help them get there.
And you're the guide. Right? So why would
you not tell them and people care about people. And there are a lot of girls on my team they buy from very specific brands, because they know the founder story. They know what they stand for. They know that they are supporting either human trafficking, or a flood just happen like an hour from where I live, like they're donating proceeds to help those families that just lost everything we went through that 10 years ago, where I where I live. So it's like, there has to be a bigger cause. And there's always a story attached to it. And exactly what you said a minute ago, like people need to be able to resonate with you. And if they don't like what you're doing, then they're gonna unsubscribe, or they're not going to read or they're not going to open they're going to delete, and that's not your perfect client anyway. Which brings me to a great question like, can you give us an example of like, who's your perfect client?
I absolutely can. Thank you. So my perfect client is a coach, a consultant, a speaker, and she's written a book. And she hasn't necessarily published it yet. But even if she has, she realizes that it's not just about the launch. The book is just the beginning of growing your brand and, and, you know, amplifying your message and your mission online. So that's who I love to help. Because, for me, it's it's totally selfish, because I love to help them further their mission of making this world a better place.
Yeah, and getting the message out there. And with PR, and with Mark, I mean, it's like a perfect mix. So for people who don't have a nurturing system yet, what do they need to do to create a nurturing system?
Okay, well, you want to know what you're going to be talking about. It doesn't have to be a lot of things. But ideally, you're going to have four content pillars, that everything kind of falls under, its like, four little, I guess, four giant umbrellas, that everything you talk about falls under. So for me, the things I talk about over and over and over again, are content marketing, like we're doing today, social media marketing, email, marketing, and marketing mindset. And everything I talk about has to do with that stuff over and over again. A lot of mindset stuff, because I find that just like you were saying, you know, feeling like you're bothering people, or you're sending too many emails or posting too much, or nah, nah, none of that. So figure out what your content pillars are. And also take a look at what you're posting or what emails you're sending, and people are opening and like and responding to, and then kind of duplicate that. That's going to be a really great jumping off point.
So if no one's responding, and no one's opening, then what do you do?
Well, first of all, Don't freak out, right? First thing you do not do not freak out, take a look and say, okay, am I really talking to my ideal client? Am I using their language? Do I even know who my ideal client is? Has it changed recently, and the people that I was talking to, I'm not talking to them anymore, and that's okay. But don't forget, freak out. Don't do that, because it's not brain surgery. And everything is fixable. And as Marie Forleo says, Everything is figure out Hubble love it. I love that. She's awesome. So if it's not working, then go back to the drawing board and say, Alright, what is my mission? What am I trying to accomplish here? Yes, I want to make money. Everybody wants to make money, that's fine. But that is there's got to be something else that gets you out of bed. Because you know, you could go to a nine to five job and make money. It's not gonna be fun. I mean, entrepreneurs, we're a special breed, because we have to have like, serious self discipline. And we have to be able to talk ourselves off the ledge on the regular. And we're creative, we have to be like, really regimented with things, we have to block a calendar, I still can't get that accomplished very well. We have to do all those things, right? So go back to the drawing board, and say, Okay, what is my mission, and then go from there. And you know, what, look at what your competitors are doing. Don't copy them. But maybe they'll inspire you. You know, they're always the big wigs in your field. So see what they're doing, and then tailor it to you.
Yeah, in something that we've learned to, like, you said, a really important word, the word change if your audience has changed. And what I've learned over the years is as you evolve as a company, and as you change, and as you pivot, and as you grow, you might be talking to a different audience in a completely different category. And when I used to do a lot of coaching, if I had one more person that said, I just keep getting all these barn weddings. I don't want to do any more country barn weddings. And I'm like, well, your social media only shows barn weddings. So stop posting what you don't want. And they're like, but I want to do what you're doing. And I'm like, will then Whoa, you can all exactly what you just said, if something inspires you. That's what Pinterest is for people. You get inspired all the time, all these freakin images. It's you can use whatever you want, go go tag or what pin or whatever the hell it's called, like, because it's gonna pin back to me anyway. And then when you actually get a job to do that, and you don't know what the hell you're doing, you're gonna come hire me anyway, to coach you through it. It's a win win situation. Totally. But not I guess not everyone is like, like, has that been out there. Apparently, there's people out there that are like you stole my work you. I'm like, You can't steal people's work and go put the pictures on the website as if you did it. But there's other ways to show inspiration, especially in social media, because people don't read the fine print. And if they're just gonna do a picture, they may think that you did that. But again, you might be able to pull it off for a group of 50 people. But when you have to produce events for 1000 plus people, and you've never built teams before, and you just sold this idea, you're going to reach out for help. Or you're going to figure it out, waste some money and make it better the next time. I mean, that's what I did. In the beginning. I don't know what the hell I was doing. I mean, I did a little bit, I grew up in the industry. But from a business perspective, I didn't know how to run a business, I had no clue. So to learn all that the hard way. But Coaches and Consultants weren't around back then either. If I could go hire someone, which oftentimes we do today, and that can fast track five years and save me a ton of money. Like, that's what I'm gonna do. So it's, it's just important to know that like, if something's not working, stop doing it, and try something else and try something else and also ask people and use their words. And that's been like one of the hardest things for me because the way that I refer to some things is the way I grew up. And it doesn't mean that my target audience is going to talk about those things or use those words. So you really have to make sure that your meaning what people are saying to you? And that's been like the hardest thing for me to, like, tailor some of my stuff to because I'm like, Yeah, I don't talk like that. I talk a lot about jail and prisoners. My dad was an undercover cop, like, I grew up around that stuff. But that's not the everyday person, you know, that, that I'm like, get out of email jail. And they're like, Yeah, emails suck. And like, well, I feel like I'm in jail, but they've never been in a jail. So how and then, then they'll think well, did were you in jail? No, I wasn't in jail. But I grew up around jails, because my dad put people in jail. You know, it's just like, you really have to think deep about, yes, otherwise, your marketing doesn't work. And so that's where you can outsource, get a copywriter invest in it. It really, really helps. So talking about posting stuff on social media. And I know a lot of people feel like they need to be on every platform. I mean, literally, every single person that we work with, they're like, where should I focus? What should I be on? Do I need to be everything, like spread a little bit too thin? I mean, if you're newer at social media, and you're just starting out, you know, that's one lane, I would say, to go in, you know, if you if your brand is season, and you've been around, and you're trying to figure out like, where's your community? Like, what are some things because I know you think you don't have to be on every single platform. And it depends on who you talk to, like different people, different marketing companies, they they all think differently. And I think it all comes from experience, you know, I say, don't put all your eggs in one basket. Because we've had clients get hacked. We've had clients be trolled. And their stuff has been taken down on certain platforms. And if they didn't own their audience, or have another platform, they'd kind of be. So what is your philosophy around? Where should people be focusing their energy just on social media?
Okay. I agree that we don't own our followers and can be hacked, and you have clients where it happened. And that's terrible. And email marketing is the reason it's the backup. It's also awesome. So whenever you get a follower, if you can get their email addresses as well, so that you always have a way to reach them. That said, I agree, don't put your eggs in one basket. But certainly don't put your eggs in 15 either. Right, so So there's got to be a balance right? Now I am sticking to three. Personally, I do Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn. Those are my people are at. And with Facebook, it's really just my Facebook group. With LinkedIn, I'm very active. And with Instagram, I'm very active. But again, it's going to be where your people are. So if your people are not on LinkedIn, do not waste your time being on LinkedIn. Because that's a waste of your time. Each social media platform has its own weird nuances. And you know, you remember, you know, what, six months ago when clubhouse became all the rage? Yes. Okay. So what were the feelings that you had attached to that because I know for me, I felt FOMO I felt guilt, I felt confusion. I felt disgust and frustration, because I didn't want to be on it. And all of a sudden, everybody was doing it. Except everybody wasn't doing it. People were going out and buying iPhones just so they could be on clubhouse.
Crazy. That's crazy.
And I had to have like a come to Jesus moment with myself that I am not an auditory learner. And I was not getting anything out of it. And I found it very confusing to have to listen to what people were saying. And then never knowing when it was my turn to talk. And or if it would ever be my turn to talk. And people would say well, it's such a great lead generator. And I was like, You know what? I get my leads from other places. So I am not I mean, I'm on clubhouse, but I don't think I've opened the app in several iterations of its of its cover. I think the last time I opened it, it was three people ago. Yeah, me too. And that's okay. So, so much of this is really about mindset to if you're going to go all in on one or two and really like learn the nuances. It's like you said earlier when you know the new the new things come out like instead When Instagram reels came out, it was like, ah, what do we do? How do we do this? And you know, all so so then you want to master what's going on in a particular app. Because the new stuff is going to boost you higher. When you're doing the new things, the app itself will boost you higher. And it's all about beating that algorithm to death. Yeah. To use your, you know, police jail death metaphor. Yes. So that said, you know, find where your people are, and stick, try to try three, but not more. And remember that in order to save yourself some agony, post the same thing on all of the platforms? Because not everybody is going to be going from? Oh, I saw what you wrote on Instagram. So I'm going to go look at how you wrote it on Facebook. And if they are, they're a your super fan or a stalker. And again, you need an undercover police officer, weird.
My brother as the PR company all undercover covert results. private investigations,
who real?
It's crazy. So I know that you do. We have someone on the podcast on songo. Her whole company, all they do is quizzes for what social media. So they write quizzes, they do a B split testing with quizzes, and I'm a huge fan, we don't do them really, but but I think you know, I'm like, that'd be cool one day. But it works for a lot of businesses. And so and I know you're a fan of doing them have, they really helped you identify like, this is my target audience, and it helps me prequalify like who I want to work with.
So in full transparency, I need to redo Mike. And by the time this airs, I will have, but um, because what was happening is it was too broad. And thankfully, I have the ability to change it myself. And I know how to write. So I'm going to be doing that because it needs to be really tailored to what you want when I was doing what I was doing before, which was creating content for people and writing the content for them. Yeah, that worked. But now it's kind of useless. So it is a good lead generator, but it has to be really honed in and currently mine is not.
But you know that and you know that you're going to work on it. And so that's a great example of how something worked for, you know, a little bit like we really try to evaluate, I mean, at least once a year you guys like, look at your websites, look at your forms, look at what you're doing. I mean, every workshop or product or anything that we're doing, like quarterly, you know, looking at it and making sure like, Is this really what we want it because what you put out is what you're going to get back just like the boring thing. If you if you don't want to do barn, things quit putting out barn shit. Like, it's, it seems so simple. But it's like we've grown to this expectation of everything that I do, I have to put it on social media, I have to tell everybody. And then we even had clients a year or so ago part of the pandemic there. They're like, why aren't you posting my stuff on social media? And I'm like, oh, excuse me, what we post on social media, we don't do things to post them on social media. The other companies may do that. That's not what we do. And so then I had to start asking the question, are you looking for something that's Instagrammable? Or are you doing this? Because of this? You know, again, going back to the mission, like what's your mission? And what's your purpose? And if people say, oh, I want that Instagram, I'm like, I'm not your girl. We're not the company for you. Right? You might end up on social you may not I don't know, so
shallow. And it is and it's not going to stay the distance stay the course it's not.
No, no. So I know that people can go to my content, quiz calm. And by the time people are listening or watching this, you could have maybe you've changed it three or four times.
Who knows. It's very possible. It is. It's a living document. Yeah. It's just
you know, you got it, you got to know what's going on. And a lot of a lot of people they don't and this was me for 10 years, I never took the time to work on the business. I was always in a new business constantly. And so this is where I want to challenge you to at least put four days on your calendar for a year. So once a quarter where you look at your shit and make sure if you're not getting the return On your nurturing content, something isn't resonating. So take the time to listen to it. You also have a Facebook group, what's the name of that group?
It's called sparkles and strategy. And to get there, you can go to VIP digital dot live slash community. And that'll get you there.
Love it. And you know, we'll put all this in the show notes. So don't pull over, you know,
a lot of your accident. Don't do that job.
Don't do that. So we'll put it in there. And then what I know you said you do Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, do you have like a favorite? If people want to directly connect with you? I think
Instagram is probably the easiest because then you can just be me and it comes right into my phone, which is always at my side. And I'm just at VIP digital content.
Awesome. This was so helpful. I know. Lots of nuggets. anybody listening or watching, thank you so much for your time. And this was awesome. Thank you for your time.
This is great so much. This has been so much fun. And I've learned stuff too. I love it. Yay.
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